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I think there's a missing nice feature in wbb, ie shrinking long quote.
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At first sight the topic of this paper, Temporality in Noun Phrases, seems to be an
odd one as the two main components, temporality and noun phrases, don’t reveal
an obvious connection. On the contrary, according to Jucker (1993: 7),
The English noun phrase has always been treated as the lesser brother of
the verb phrase. It seems to be less problematic, simpler, and more straight-
forward than the verb phrase, which consequently is taken to offer more
exciting and more rewarding research questions.
A similar, rather one-dimensional, attitude can be found with respect to the notion
of temporality. Although many authors introduce the topic of temporal interpre-
tations, they focus primarily on verbs or whole sentences, as already shown in the
titels of their books, like Rennat Declerck. 1997. When-Clauses and Temporal
Structure. London: Routledge.
At this point one could think that my chosen topic is ill-fated: noun phrases aren’t
considered to be attractive enough and the feature of temporality is reserved for
verbs and sentences. However, in an abstract way this paper can be seen as a
counterargument for this attitude because it is my aim to show that a temporal interpretation
isn’t reduced to the domain of verbal predicates alone, but it can be
also assigned to noun phrases.
With this simplified view in mind, I will start approaching the topic by taking a
look at traditional concepts of tense. Intuitively many people will state that iden-
tifying a temporal setting is a verbal prerogative. Accordingly, sentences like for
example
(i) John plays soccer and
(ii) John played soccer
reveal their temporal location via the overt tense reflexes, -s and -ed. By applying
them to the verb (to play), we receive the interpretations that the activity (to play
soccer), carried out by the agent (John), took place either in the present (shown in
the first example) or in the past (shown in the second example). At first sight,
there seems to be no problem with regard to such an account, especially as this is
also the normal way children learn a grammar in school. However, by taking a
closer look at the analysis, sooner or later the question has to be raised, why tense
seems to be so closely and exclusively associated with verbs. This rather basic
question is adressed in chapter 2 of this paper.
After that, I leave the verbal domain in order to arrive at the nominal one. The
third chapter can be seen as the theoretical framework, which is important with
respect to the topics that will be addressed later. Thus, it wouldn’t make sense to
talk about a noun’s functional structure, unless one knows that such an assump-
tion is the re-evaluation of former proposals.
Moreover, in the second subchapter I will have a look at verbal properties, which
can be detected in noun phrases. Once again, this account seems to be strange, as
one could surely think of more differences than similarities between verbs and nouns.
Nevertheless, there are languages, like for instance Turkish, where the
feature of voice can be applied not only to verbs, but also to nouns.
Chapter 4 can be seen as half of the “heart” of this thesis, as it focuses explicitly
on the notion of tense within noun phrases. In order to allow a wide insight, I de-
cided to introduce four approaches by Mürvet Enç and one analysis by Renate
Musan. However, this doesn’t mean that I simply summarise the crucial findings
of these models. On the contrary. As it is my main goal to show how nouns can
receive a temporal interpretation, I will stick to those parts of the authors’ views,
which are either very important or raise difficulties. Accordingly, I will also out-
line possible problematic issues or offer my own analysis.
In order to “fix” the broken heart of my paper, the fifth chapter can be considered
as the second main account on temporality within nouns. This time, the presented
data belong to different linguistic domains, since they offer semantic, morpholo-
gical and syntactic pieces of evidence. These examples seem to be straight for-
ward by accounting them for the first time. However, this changes after a closer
analysis. Again, I will also address such problematic issues.
Apart from obvious difficulties within the given languages and examples, there is
one crucial problem, which needs to be pointed out more precisely and thus, it re-
ceives a chapter on its own. The problem deals with the fact, that the displayed
examples by Burton (1997) and Lecarme (1998) can’t be considered as clearly
or only denoting a temporal setting, but rather or also establishing reference. This
aspect will be dealt with in chapter 6.
The next part, chapter 7, seems to be a rather strange one at first sight. It is called
“Temporal Adverbs = Temporal Noun Phrases?!” and the exclamation mark at the
end appears to be ill-placed as adverbs are obviously not nouns. Thus, there is no
reason why one should ask for or indicate a possible relationship between them.
However, this assumption just holds at first sight or from a superficial point of
view because various researchers, among them Mürvet Enç (1987), Richard K.
Larson (1985) as well as Frank Vlach (1993), have shown that temporal adverbs
can indeed be analysed as noun phrases. I will offer their examples and arguments
in favour of such a view and also discuss questions, which come up in the course
of this topic.
In chapter 8 I will go analysing NPs, but from a somewhat different perspective.
Although one could argue that seven chapters on that topic are enough, I think
there are two further aspects, which need to be addressed. In an “intuitive” way,
I will first take a look at NPs like “ex-wife” or “former lecturer. Then I will turn
to the temporal concept of NPs like “the poem” or “the manual”. These findings
are furnished by data, which I collected from five friends of mine.
The last chapter of this thesis summarises the findings and also points out some
ideas for future researches on that topic. In addition to that, a list with the ab-
breviations used throughout the paper is included.
© Gabbid (Introduction)
Here's the example, super long quoted text.
At first sight the topic of this paper, Temporality in Noun Phrases, seems to be an
odd one as the two main components, temporality and noun phrases, don't reveal
an obvious connection. On the contrary, according to Jucker (1993: 7),
The English noun phrase has always been treated as the lesser brother of
the verb phrase. It seems to be less problematic, simpler, and more straight-
forward than the verb phrase, which consequently is taken to offer more
exciting and more rewarding research questions.
A similar, rather one-dimensional, attitude can be found with respect to the notion
of temporality. Although many authors introduce the topic of temporal interpre-
tations, they focus primarily on verbs or whole sentences, as already shown in the
titels of their books, like Rennat Declerck. 1997. When-Clauses and Temporal
Structure. London: Routledge.
At this point one could think that my chosen topic is ill-fated: noun phrases aren't
considered to be attractive enough and the feature of temporality is reserved for
verbs and sentences. However, in an abstract way this paper can be seen as a
counterargument for this attitude because it is my aim to show that a temporal interpretation
isn't reduced to the domain of verbal predicates alone, but it can be
also assigned to noun phrases.
With this simplified view in mind, I will start approaching the topic by taking a
look at traditional concepts of tense. Intuitively many people will state that iden-
tifying a temporal setting is a verbal prerogative. Accordingly, sentences like for
example
(i) John plays soccer and
(ii) John played soccer
reveal their temporal location via the overt tense reflexes, -s and -ed. By applying
them to the verb (to play), we receive the interpretations that the activity (to play
soccer), carried out by the agent (John), took place either in the present (shown in
the first example) or in the past (shown in the second example). At first sight,
there seems to be no problem with regard to such an account, especially as this is
also the normal way children learn a grammar in school. However, by taking a
closer look at the analysis, sooner or later the question has to be raised, why tense
seems to be so closely and exclusively associated with verbs. This rather basic
question is adressed in chapter 2 of this paper.
After that, I leave the verbal domain in order to arrive at the nominal one. The
third chapter can be seen as the theoretical framework, which is important with
respect to the topics that will be addressed later. Thus, it wouldn't make sense to
talk about a noun's functional structure, unless one knows that such an assump-
tion is the re-evaluation of former proposals.
Moreover, in the second subchapter I will have a look at verbal properties, which
can be detected in noun phrases. Once again, this account seems to be strange, as
one could surely think of more differences than similarities between verbs and nouns.
Nevertheless, there are languages, like for instance Turkish, where the
feature of voice can be applied not only to verbs, but also to nouns.
Chapter 4 can be seen as half of the "heart" of this thesis, as it focuses explicitly
on the notion of tense within noun phrases. In order to allow a wide insight, I de-
cided to introduce four approaches by Mürvet Enç and one analysis by Renate
Musan. However, this doesn't mean that I simply summarise the crucial findings
of these models. On the contrary. As it is my main goal to show how nouns can
receive a temporal interpretation, I will stick to those parts of the authors' views,
which are either very important or raise difficulties. Accordingly, I will also out-
line possible problematic issues or offer my own analysis.
In order to "fix" the broken heart of my paper, the fifth chapter can be considered
as the second main account on temporality within nouns. This time, the presented
data belong to different linguistic domains, since they offer semantic, morpholo-
gical and syntactic pieces of evidence. These examples seem to be straight for-
ward by accounting them for the first time. However, this changes after a closer
analysis. Again, I will also address such problematic issues.
Apart from obvious difficulties within the given languages and examples, there is
one crucial problem, which needs to be pointed out more precisely and thus, it re-
ceives a chapter on its own. The problem deals with the fact, that the displayed
examples by Burton (1997) and Lecarme (1998) can't be considered as clearly
or only denoting a temporal setting, but rather or also establishing reference. This
aspect will be dealt with in chapter 6.
The next part, chapter 7, seems to be a rather strange one at first sight. It is called
"Temporal Adverbs = Temporal Noun Phrases?!" and the exclamation mark at the
end appears to be ill-placed as adverbs are obviously not nouns. Thus, there is no
reason why one should ask for or indicate a possible relationship between them.
However, this assumption just holds at first sight or from a superficial point of
view because various researchers, among them Mürvet Enç (1987), Richard K.
Larson (1985) as well as Frank Vlach (1993), have shown that temporal adverbs
can indeed be analysed as noun phrases. I will offer their examples and arguments
in favour of such a view and also discuss questions, which come up in the course
of this topic.
In chapter 8 I will go analysing NPs, but from a somewhat different perspective.
Although one could argue that seven chapters on that topic are enough, I think
there are two further aspects, which need to be addressed. In an "intuitive" way,
I will first take a look at NPs like "ex-wife" or "former lecturer. Then I will turn
to the temporal concept of NPs like "the poem" or "the manual". These findings
are furnished by data, which I collected from five friends of mine.
The last chapter of this thesis summarises the findings and also points out some
ideas for future researches on that topic. In addition to that, a list with the ab-
breviations used throughout the paper is included.
© Gabbid (Introduction)
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Maybe WoltLab can implement something similar as for the long codes?
There is a " display more / display less " in quote above. Is that a separate BBC ?
There is a " display more / display less " in quote above. Is that a separate BBC ?
You mean my post?
THat is not quote, its a "code" bbcode.
For quotes it does not exist yet.
Maybe Woltlab decides to implement it
Yes.
Just noticed. Since it was text, I thought that is a quote.
Btw From throwholics post Shrinking long quote
I found a bug regarding "code" bbcode. After clicking "display LESS" there is huge white space under footer. WoltLab
Sweetie That looks really odd, what browser and version are you using?
latest chrome on ubuntu
Just tried on Windows 10 and Chrome and there is nothing wrong with the footer.
Sweetie do you have anything in your browser console F12 ?
should I hit f12?
Update:Now I am on smartphone, latest chrome android. When click display less, my screen was left in footer area, I think it should follow the post where the code bbcode located.
should I hit f12?
Yes hit F12 when this happens in your computer.
Then there might be an error message in your browser which could lead to the problem. I cannot reproduce it
This isFirefox for Android. The white space vanish add you scroll down
Yes hit F12 when this happens in your computer.
Then there might be an error message in your browser which could lead to the problem. I cannot reproduce it
it's not happening again
btw, we are too far away from original topic, ie: Shrinking long quote
#sorry, i started it.
btw, we are too far away from original topic, ie: Shrinking long quote
#sorry, i started it.
True... Maybe woltlab is still considering? ?
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